| Re: FTPro to Search Journal Citations - Some Thoughts [message #472 is a reply to message #470] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 10:24  |
D Levy
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Hello
I also use FT Pro and DevonThink for managing a large store of journal
articles. I find I need both.
FT Pro is the fastest, most accurate, most finely-specifiable way of
searching. The filtering by age, file type, location, etc. allow some
coarse adjustments that help. I wouldn't like to be without it. One
other unique feature of FT Pro is that after a complex query, the
internal viewer highlights different search elements by color. This is
valuable because some search terms are, of necessity, very frequently
found, but what one actually seeks is a different term which is
infrequent. Using color allows me to find these quickly. As I noted,
so far as I know this is unique and very useful.
DevonThink (Pro Office) is also very useful in two different ways.
First, I do quite a bit of the management of the articles within DT,
e.g. converting non-searchable PDFs to PDF, noticing those that are
misfiled or duplicates, etc. Second, the more important feature is the
see also functionality which works by word frequency comparisons. I
find that this often finds papers that I would not have realised are
related or would not have realised have relevant sections because I
would not have searched on some words. This is invaluable in the early
stages of researching a topic.
David.
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David Levy
Department of Philosophy
University of Edinburgh
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On 6 Feb 2017, at 22:26, elviades«~at~»gmail«|dot|»com wrote:
> I have also some interesting absurd properties with Foxtro pro.
> Indexing
> two identical files (duplicates), one of them ranks higher, the other
> one
> ranks about 10 steps lower. I don't know what is happening.
>
> But, the proximity searches in Foxtrot are much cleaner than
> Devonthink.
> The slides are very useful too.
>
> On Saturday, October 8, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC+2, Jeffrey Weimer
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I am test driving FTPro to search in PDF journal articles. I want to
>> note
>> some of my initial findings for anyone so interested.
>>
>> I am comparing FTPro to Papers. FWIW, I also use Mendeley. Its search
>> engine is only useful to do a quick-and-dirty finding. I've also
>> tested
>> EndNote and generally found it too cumbersome (and way too costly for
>> its
>> feature set).
>>
>> I did a test run on my library database. For this specific case, I
>> did a
>> search on the terms:
>>
>> --> Papers: all:chlorosilane AND all:glass
>> --> FTPro: *chlorosilane, glass
>>
>> Papers returns a set of 16 results with significance ranking.
>> Interestingly, it does NOT find articles where the terms are in the
>> titles
>> (this is something I've asked about on the Papers support sight).
>>
>> By comparison, FTPro returns 7-19 items in the "around one line"
>> search
>> and 75 in the broadest search (it has 0 items at "next to"). In the
>> "around one line" search, it returns the article with the terms in
>> the
>> title. I can see immediately the phrase that uses the terms.
>>
>> I would note one odd behavior. When I adjust the slider and redo the
>> search for "around one line", I get different return results
>> randomly.
>> Sometimes I get 7 hits, sometimes I get 19 hits.
>>
>> As a final note, I would add that I've compared DevonThinkPro as
>> well. For
>> my needs, I find FTPro to be cleaner in its UI, have a more intuitive
>> approach to searching, and return more useful results.
>>
>> Hope this helps anyone who is also comparing FTPro vs a dedicated
>> citation
>> manager (and vs DTP).
>>
>> --
>> JJW
>>
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