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Epub indexing? [message #714] Fri, 30 March 2018 13:51 Go to next message
Gilles Karmasyn
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Registered: March 2018
Junior Member
Hi,

I'm a happy foxtrot pro owner. Am I wrong or are epub files not indexed
(except for their file names)?

If so, can we expect a foxtrot version that would index the epub format?

Thanks in advance for any answer.

GK
Re: Epub indexing? [message #715 is a reply to message #714] Fri, 30 March 2018 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FoxTrot Engineering
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Gilles Karmasyn wrote:

> I'm a happy foxtrot pro owner. Am I wrong or are epub files not indexed
> (except for their file names)?

FoxTrot relies on third-party "Spotlight metadata importers" to index file formats not natively supported; and to display found files in those formats, in a better way than a plain-text version, it also relies on third-party "Quick Look plugins".

Some epub applications may include these plugins; or may find them as independent plugins.

You may try these one, for example:

https://github.com/jaketmp/ePub-quicklook/releases


Jérôme - CTM Engineering


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old Command-F. I never liked Sherlock and never really saw the need for
fancy search software, but FoxTrot has made me think again."
FoxTrot Personal Search review on www.softpedia.com

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Re: Epub indexing? [message #716 is a reply to message #715] Sun, 01 April 2018 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gilles Karmasyn
Messages: 2
Registered: March 2018
Junior Member
Hi,

Thank you very much for you help. I was able to have my ebooks indexed with
the Spotlight importer you pointed me to. Unfortunately, the Quick Look
plugin associated only displays the cover and some metadata, but does not
allow to glimpse at the occurences of the searches strings in the preview
mode: you have to open the epub file in an epub reader and search to the
string again. Not a practical way of doing things...

BUT!

After much searching, thanks to the ever competent Tidbots team, I was
directed to the Musaraki ebook reader, which, for 9€ offers its own
epub Quick Look plugin that does exactly the job: (pre)viewing the *whole*
epub content in a scrollable window (perfectly fitted for foxtrot preview).

What I did: I displayed the Musaraki content package to grab the plugin
"EPUB.qlgenerator" in its "QuickLook' folder and copy it to the
/Library/Quick Look folder (a step that might not be required if the
Musaraki QL plugin is registered to the OS one way or the other, but I did
not check).

It seems this is the only epub QL plugin able to do that job. Surprising.
It was last updated in 2015 though and might become obsolete one day... I'm
not sure if this is within Foxtrot scope, but wouldn't it be nice to find a
way to "secure" this plugin perenity...? WIth the progress of the epub
format, Foxtrot would be offering added value by providing efficient epub
preview...

Again: thank you for your answer. My problem is neatly solved.

Sincerely yours,

GK

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 3:33:51 PM UTC+2, FoxTrot Engineering wrote:
>
> Gilles Karmasyn wrote:
>
>> I'm a happy foxtrot pro owner. Am I wrong or are epub files not indexed
>> (except for their file names)?
>
> FoxTrot relies on third-party "Spotlight metadata importers" to index file
> formats not natively supported; and to display found files in those
> formats, in a better way than a plain-text version, it also relies on
> third-party "Quick Look plugins".
>
> Some epub applications may include these plugins; or may find them as
> independent plugins.
>
> You may try these one, for example:
>
> https://github.com/jaketmp/ePub-quicklook/releases
>
>
> Jérôme - CTM Engineering
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------
> "Being an old school Mac user, to me searching for a file is the good
> old Command-F. I never liked Sherlock and never really saw the need
> for
> fancy search software, but FoxTrot has made me think again."
> FoxTrot Personal Search review on www.softpedia.com
>
> Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------
>
>
>
>

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Re: Epub indexing? [message #734 is a reply to message #716] Sat, 05 May 2018 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jonathanalix via foxt
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Registered: May 2019
Member
That's a very useful hint, thanks very much! I had just got used to the
fact that epubs simply just didn't get indexed, I never thought about
possible solutions. Thank you again!
Re: Epub indexing? [message #739 is a reply to message #716] Sat, 12 May 2018 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Darren Ingram
Messages: 12
Registered: May 2018
Junior Member
I am very pleased to have found this thread by a web search!

It may be a silly question, but what format should I tell FT to use for
epub with this plugin? I want to fully index my Calibre database, but I
don't want all the scrap like OPF and other index type files. With the
plugin, there is no specific epub data type.

I second the request that FT has this common data format as a built-in data
type. Even if you licence the plugin and we need to acquire it at an extra
cost.


Thanks, Darren

On Sunday, 1 April 2018 01:53:41 UTC+3, Gilles Karmasyn wrote:
>
> After much searching, thanks to the ever competent Tidbots team, I was
> directed to the Musaraki ebook reader, which, for 9€ offers its own
> epub Quick Look plugin that does exactly the job: (pre)viewing the *whole*
> epub content in a scrollable window (perfectly fitted for foxtrot preview).
>
>
>>

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Re: Epub indexing? [message #746 is a reply to message #739] Fri, 25 May 2018 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FoxTrot Engineering
Messages: 329
Registered: April 2020
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Darren Ingram wrote:

> It may be a silly question, but what format should I tell FT to use for
> epub with this plugin? I want to fully index my Calibre database, but I
> don't want all the scrap like OPF and other index type files. With the
> plugin, there is no specific epub data type.

You can just add your Calibre library to the "custom locations" list of your index; the .opf files will also get indexed (by filename only), but this is usually not an issue.

You can check "only index filename when indexing content", in the "indexed data" tab, to avoid this. In this case, you may choose to have a separate index dedicated to Calibre, with this option enabled, and keep indexing all filenames for your other indices. Also, you can disable all filetypes except "documents" in the "index contents of files" list, to also avoid indexing jpg covers etc.


Jérôme - CTM Engineering


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"I have a variety of indexing and searching tools: Spotlight, PathFinder,
EagleFiler. Foxtrot is just head and shoulders ahead of everything else
in capability. It finds every instance of a search term within a document
and highlights them and allows you to jump from instance to instance and
even gives a popup menu that shows all the instances in a short context."
FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com

Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch
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Re: Epub indexing? [message #1470 is a reply to message #746] Wed, 22 June 2022 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mustafa_iEEE
Messages: 7
Registered: June 2022
Junior Member
The ePub plugin mention on FT faq page did not work for on M1 Monterey. I did not try the Murasaki app so can't comment on that.

However, I found a free solution that work properly. It does allow FT to index all texts of ePub files so they become searchable.

https://github.com/mustafaalbazy/EPUB-Plugins

scroll down and check the readme, then follow the steps of installing the Spotlight and Quick Look plugins.

[Updated on: Wed, 22 June 2022 02:42]

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Re: Epub indexing? [message #1472 is a reply to message #1470] Wed, 22 June 2022 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Atlas
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Registered: August 2009
Member
What's the difference between the above fork and the original fork of the same spotlight plugin here: https://github.com/GenjiApp/EPUB-Plugins
Re: Epub indexing? [message #1474 is a reply to message #1472] Wed, 22 June 2022 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FoxTrot Engineering
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Registered: April 2020
Senior Member
No difference: "This branch is up to date with GenjiApp/EPUB-Plugins:master". Github would indicate that the fork is "x commits ahead" and/or "y commits behind" the forked project if they were some differences.
People may fork a project for various reasons without making any change, which makes finding the most active fork sometimes difficult. In this case, GenjiApp/EPUB-Plugins seems to be the only active project.


Jérôme - FoxTrot Engineering
Re: Epub indexing? [message #1477 is a reply to message #1472] Wed, 22 June 2022 18:19 Go to previous message
Mustafa_iEEE
Messages: 7
Registered: June 2022
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Atlas wrote on Wed, 22 June 2022 10:17
What's the difference between the above fork and the original fork of the same spotlight plugin here: https://github.com/GenjiApp/EPUB-Plugins
They are the same thing. I just fork it to download it later and have a look nothing fancy.

The download link in the 'readme' actually takes you to the official download page.
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