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Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #251] Sun, 04 January 2015 02:18 Go to next message
Felix
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2015
Junior Member
Hi,

I'm evaluating FoxTrot Personal Search under OS X 10.10 for my future
paperless office.

I have scanned the attached example PDF and added OCR text recognition.

When you copy and paste "CYBEX GOLD" from the PDF, you can see, that the
OCR text is correct.

When you search "cybex" within FT Personal Search, nothing will be found
(index is up to date).
When you search "baby" within FT Personal Search, "baby" will be found.
Spotlight will find "cybex" in the attached PDF document.

Is there a problem with my PDF document or a bug in FoxTrot?

Thanks for your help.

Yours sincerely
Felix Steinbeis
Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #252 is a reply to message #251] Sun, 04 January 2015 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Felix
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2015
Junior Member
Same in FoxTrot Professional Search.
Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #253 is a reply to message #251] Sun, 04 January 2015 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whrose
Messages: 18
Registered: October 2009
Junior Member
I can find both cybex and baby with my copy of FoxTrot Professional Search
5.0.2 build 1295 (see screen shot attachted). So maybe it is not a “problem
with my PDF document or a bug in FoxTrot?” but something else. I don’t know.


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Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #254 is a reply to message #253] Sun, 04 January 2015 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Felix
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2015
Junior Member
Thanks for your response.

I have a new installation of FoxTrot Professional Search in VMware Fusion
under a fresh installed OS X 10.10.1.

In the FoxTrot Main Window "cybex" will not be found, but "baby" will be
found (see screen shot attachted)
In the FoxTrot Viewer I can find "cybex" and "baby" (see screen shot
attached).

Can you find "cybex" in the FoxTrot Main Window?

Many thanks and greetings
Felix
Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #255 is a reply to message #254] Sun, 04 January 2015 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whrose
Messages: 18
Registered: October 2009
Junior Member
Good point. Not in the Main Window, but yes in the Viewer. Strange.

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Felix wrote:

> Thanks for your response.
>
> I have a new installation of FoxTrot Professional Search in VMware Fusion
> under a fresh installed OS X 10.10.1.
>
> In the FoxTrot Main Window "cybex" will not be found, but "baby" will be
> found (see screen shot attachted)
> In the FoxTrot Viewer I can find "cybex" and "baby" (see screen shot
> attached).
>
> Can you find "cybex" in the FoxTrot Main Window?
>
> Many thanks and greetings
> Felix
>
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>
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>
Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #256 is a reply to message #255] Sun, 04 January 2015 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Felix
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2015
Junior Member
Thanks.

It looks like a bug in FoxTrot.
Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #257 is a reply to message #251] Mon, 05 January 2015 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FoxTrot Engineering
Messages: 348
Registered: April 2020
Senior Member
Felix wrote:

> I have scanned the attached example PDF and added OCR text recognition.
>
> When you search "cybex" within FT Personal Search, nothing will be found
> (index is up to date).

The problem is that OCR'ed PDF documents are often difficult to parse, and the result depends on the method used. You often get different results when you open the document in Adobe Reader, in Preview, when you search using Spotlight etc, because sometimes some spaces are dropped between two words, and some other times, spaces are inserted inside a word. For example, the "this is an example" string can be parsed as "thisisanexample", or as "t h i s i s a n e x a m p l e".

To see how a document content has been parsed, you can option-click the document in FoxTrot's result list.

By default, the current version of FoxTrot uses the Xpdf engine to parse PDF documents, that's why the result is different than when you search using Spotlight. You can make FoxTrot use the Spotlight importer instead of Xpdf, and in fact with recent versions of OS X, you will generally get better results. FoxTrot 5.1 will use the Spotlight PDF importer by default.

To change this setting, press the command and option keys while launching FoxTrot, check "Manage third-party metadata importers", then uncheck "Prefer Xpdf for PDF documents". You will have to rebuild your index for the change to apply on already indexed documents.


Jérôme - CTM Engineering


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"FoxTrot is the one app with which I would have to go back to the PC
because Spotlight is so profoundly useless for serious research (don't
get me started). FoxTrot steps in and does about everything I need to
and does it quickly and with grace. Everytime I have emailed the devs,
I get a timely and responsive answer. I have a few quibbles of course
such as the use of non-standard Boolean operators (| instead of OR for
example) but overall I am very, very pleased.
Believe me, I am a serous researcher and this is what you want!"
FoxTrot Personal Search user comment on www.versiontracker.com

Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch
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Jérôme - FoxTrot Engineering
Re: Search String not found in FoxTrot Personal Search 5.0.2 build 1295 [message #258 is a reply to message #257] Mon, 05 January 2015 20:32 Go to previous message
Felix
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2015
Junior Member
Hi Jérôme,

thanks a lot. That is the solution.

Now FoxTrot works as expected.

Felix
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